Comments on: The Future of Road Racing: Are We Really Gonna Build This City On Rock & Roll? http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/ sometimes i feel like my only friend is the city i live in, the city of angels Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:53:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Michael @badassdadblog http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/comment-page-1/#comment-403 Michael @badassdadblog Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:00:43 +0000 http://notorias.com/?p=599#comment-403 As a newbie runner myself who's run one 5K and recently started signing up for races (including the R&R 1/2 in LA in October 2010), I suppose I AM the target market for these sorts of things. Well, not the ultras, so much (yet?). I think it's simply a question of supply growing to meet perceived demand. If runners will sign up and pay for races, race organizers will keep organizing them. I have trouble seeing this as a bad thing. Like you, I hope people train appropriately and don't hurt themselves, but in the end that's their responsibility. You can't blame the guys who build the roads when reckless drivers crash their cars. As a newbie runner myself who’s run one 5K and recently started signing up for races (including the R&R 1/2 in LA in October 2010), I suppose I AM the target market for these sorts of things. Well, not the ultras, so much (yet?). I think it’s simply a question of supply growing to meet perceived demand. If runners will sign up and pay for races, race organizers will keep organizing them.

I have trouble seeing this as a bad thing. Like you, I hope people train appropriately and don’t hurt themselves, but in the end that’s their responsibility. You can’t blame the guys who build the roads when reckless drivers crash their cars.

]]> By: Atrusni http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/comment-page-1/#comment-354 Atrusni Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:09:31 +0000 http://notorias.com/?p=599#comment-354 Hi JT, Nice article, although my point of view may be a little different than yours. Where I live, we are lucky just to have someone organize a 5k during the year. For example, during the complete 2009, only one 5k was organized, that can give you an idea of how poor the support for runners in my city is. Therefore, on my situation, I really do not care who organizes marathons or races, I will be happy as long as there is the option to run a race in the weekend. There are other bigger cities however near by where I can run races every weekend, but still, I am talking about 220 km that i need to drive (about a 2 hour drive) to run a 10 k in 30 minutes. I will say, enjoy what you have, and keep on running!! Regards, Atrusni http://web.me.com/amaurydeleon Hi JT,

Nice article, although my point of view may be a little different than yours.

Where I live, we are lucky just to have someone organize a 5k during the year. For example, during the complete 2009, only one 5k was organized, that can give you an idea of how poor the support for runners in my city is.

Therefore, on my situation, I really do not care who organizes marathons or races, I will be happy as long as there is the option to run a race in the weekend.

There are other bigger cities however near by where I can run races every weekend, but still, I am talking about 220 km that i need to drive (about a 2 hour drive) to run a 10 k in 30 minutes.

I will say, enjoy what you have, and keep on running!!

Regards,

Atrusni

http://web.me.com/amaurydeleon

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]]> By: Glenn Jones http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Glenn Jones Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:42:27 +0000 http://notorias.com/?p=599#comment-322 Honestly - what's wrong with this? There is obviously economic profit to be made. And if a group like ICR or the the Competitor Group can do it better than Jos Schmoe Indie racing, then so be it. Who loses? Runners? Nope. We benefit (in theory) from better organization, race facilities, timing,etc. Volunteers? Nope - they get better checks as "contributions" (Yes - they do that. My Boy Scout Troop gets around $6K a year from these type of events). The Elite racers? Nope - purses should be (and are) bigger. Aboutthe only one who suffers is Joe Indie Racing trying to put together a marathon on a shoestring budget. Now, if Joe Indie Racing can do it better and cheaper, the they *should* be involved. Isn't that what business is all about? And as far as new runners getting involved and not being ready? Well - that's not a race organization issue. That's a racer issue. Kind of like a person who decides they're going to climb a mountain after watching Everest on the Discovery Channel. That's the power of marketing. <> Honestly – what’s wrong with this? There is obviously economic profit to be made. And if a group like ICR or the the Competitor Group can do it better than Jos Schmoe Indie racing, then so be it. Who loses? Runners? Nope. We benefit (in theory) from better organization, race facilities, timing,etc. Volunteers? Nope – they get better checks as “contributions” (Yes – they do that. My Boy Scout Troop gets around $6K a year from these type of events). The Elite racers? Nope – purses should be (and are) bigger.

Aboutthe only one who suffers is Joe Indie Racing trying to put together a marathon on a shoestring budget. Now, if Joe Indie Racing can do it better and cheaper, the they *should* be involved. Isn’t that what business is all about?

And as far as new runners getting involved and not being ready? Well – that’s not a race organization issue. That’s a racer issue. Kind of like a person who decides they’re going to climb a mountain after watching Everest on the Discovery Channel. That’s the power of marketing.

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]]> By: JT http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/comment-page-1/#comment-321 JT Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:32:17 +0000 http://notorias.com/?p=599#comment-321 Andee!!! I will go cheer for you if you do an IM!!! Ali - OH YEAH I totally forgot the Biggest Loser did a marathon towards the end! It's so hip to do 26.2 now - I like it! I just don't want people to get hurt! Andee!!! I will go cheer for you if you do an IM!!!

Ali – OH YEAH I totally forgot the Biggest Loser did a marathon towards the end! It’s so hip to do 26.2 now – I like it! I just don’t want people to get hurt!

]]> By: Alicia http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/comment-page-1/#comment-320 Alicia Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:10:42 +0000 http://notorias.com/?p=599#comment-320 "More importantly, what does this mean the serious racer? With increased participation, expect some high traffic and congestion in races by slow and “inexperienced” racers (a gripe that was recently brought up during the last New York Marathon in a New York Times article). I couldn’t count with five hands how many people jumped and signed up for the new Stadium to Sea course for the L.A. Marathon without planned training on how they were actually going to FINISH the course. I’m hoping they will supply stats on sign ups / completions." This got me thinking... I wonder what the impact of The Biggest Loser's marathon will have on racing... because I'm sure that the average Joe is thinking that 26.2 must not be THAT big of a deal if TBL's contestants could do it. Scary. “More importantly, what does this mean the serious racer? With increased participation, expect some high traffic and congestion in races by slow and “inexperienced” racers (a gripe that was recently brought up during the last New York Marathon in a New York Times article). I couldn’t count with five hands how many people jumped and signed up for the new Stadium to Sea course for the L.A. Marathon without planned training on how they were actually going to FINISH the course. I’m hoping they will supply stats on sign ups / completions.”

This got me thinking… I wonder what the impact of The Biggest Loser’s marathon will have on racing… because I’m sure that the average Joe is thinking that 26.2 must not be THAT big of a deal if TBL’s contestants could do it. Scary.

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]]> By: Andee (LAEasyMeals) http://notorias.com/gear-geek/the-future-of-road-racing-are-we-really-gonna-build-this-city-on-rock-roll/comment-page-1/#comment-316 Andee (LAEasyMeals) Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:17:50 +0000 http://notorias.com/?p=599#comment-316 Great article! That is crazy, I totally don't associate RnR with Ultras. Should be interesting to see where they take that series. Just found out there is a L.A RnR in Sept 2010 too, for a half marathon. That would be awesome if the next Ironman was held somewhere close to here! I have contemplated doing it, but the swimming/biking is way too hard for me lol Great article! That is crazy, I totally don’t associate RnR with Ultras. Should be interesting to see where they take that series. Just found out there is a L.A RnR in Sept 2010 too, for a half marathon. That would be awesome if the next Ironman was held somewhere close to here! I have contemplated doing it, but the swimming/biking is way too hard for me lol

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